getting LOST w Kirsten...

A late night virtual chinwag on the LOST finale w Miss Kirsten...

Tuesday, May 30, 2006.

11:08:54 PM cabinboy: is it too late to bounce IMs about LOST back n forth?
11:09:05 PM kirsten: oh gosh no!
11:09:48 PM cabinboy: there were a lot of teases in it, but overall i loved it for wrapping up a lot of things in a nice bow - even if some of it wasn't what i was really chomping at the bit to know
11:10:32 PM kirsten: well understanding the plane crash was pretty cool
11:10:41 PM kirsten: though what's with the electromagnetic stuff?
11:10:45 PM cabinboy: desmond's flashbacks, the purpose of the hatch, desmond causing the plane to crash - yeah, that was excellent
11:11:15 PM cabinboy: it's pretty amazing how Echo's the only one who really takes it to heart that there's some kind of electromagnetic something in that chamber in the hatch
11:12:01 PM cabinboy: early on, i think sahid explains to jack and locke that there's something electromag there, but when they figure out there's no access to the area, they just sort of drop it
11:12:11 PM kirsten: but did they explain why it's electromagnetic?
11:12:50 PM cabinboy: sahid does, notices something like echo did (w his crucifix pendant being pulled toward the chamber)
11:13:20 PM cabinboy: part of the island's weirdness, at least w the survivors' camp, seems to be this ability to overlook a lot of oddness, take it in stride
11:13:48 PM cabinboy: i mean, for gosh sakes, there's A BLACK CLOUD THAT CAN EXPLODE THINGS AND CHOMP HUMAN FLESH FLOATING AROUND THE ISLAND
11:14:19 PM kirsten: oh that's right, i almost forgot about that. they haven't revisited it in AGES, which is bizarre
11:14:37 PM cabinboy: isn't it? i wonder if that cloud is somehow INSIDE of charlie now
11:14:52 PM cabinboy: he's gone a bit... crooked, in the last few hours of the show
11:15:46 PM cabinboy: finale coincidence - LIBBY gives DESMOND his boat
11:16:00 PM cabinboy: LIBBY's funeral, is, like a minute before DESMOND's boat is spotted!
11:16:19 PM kirsten: i know. she's popping up EVERYWHERE!
11:16:24 PM cabinboy: DESMOND dies before he finds out, or gets to tell anyone, that libby, who gave him the boat, was on the island!
11:16:29 PM kirsten: What was with her being in the asylum? Are they never going to go back to that?
11:16:30 PM cabinboy: her husband's name - david
11:16:45 PM cabinboy: only one "david" i can remember i LOST history (but i don't remember EVERYTHING)
11:16:54 PM cabinboy: hurley's "imaginary" dave
11:17:05 PM cabinboy: who appeared at the asylum
11:17:06 PM kirsten: Oh my gosh, that didn't even occur to me!
11:17:26 PM kirsten: wow, you're much more perceptive than I
11:17:27 PM cabinboy: hrmm... and appeared again after libby showed up
11:17:53 PM cabinboy: i dunno about perceptive - i don't get a lot of other sensory input during my day-to-day
11:18:40 PM cabinboy: and i let story stuff, especially kooky interesting story stuff, keep spinning in my brain for a While after watching... i've sorta been forcing Rowan to put up w it, but he's not a longtime watcher yet
11:19:06 PM cabinboy: i bounce ideas off of him... but he hasn't watched all of season 1 and missed about half of season 2
11:19:08 PM kirsten: i've been wanting to get on some of the blogs and such now that the season is over
11:19:27 PM cabinboy: ooo... i'm afraid to jump into those
11:19:57 PM cabinboy: (did you catch any of the hanso corp fake commercials during the last few episodes?)
11:20:10 PM kirsten: no, i TiVo through everything unfortunately
11:20:14 PM cabinboy: i usually skip commercials
11:20:14 PM kirsten: what were they?
11:20:25 PM cabinboy: ha, yeah - one was for hansocorp.com, another for hansocareers.com
11:20:46 PM cabinboy: i only caught one during the finale by accident
11:21:01 PM cabinboy: Rowan was working the remote and was FFing instead of skipping
11:21:10 PM cabinboy: and at the end, he almost skipped past the very ending
11:21:16 PM cabinboy: i wonder how many people did that
11:22:09 PM cabinboy: i don't know that i want to go on a LOST internet scavenger hunt - i might hafta drop in on blogs to see what madder fans have discovered
11:22:55 PM kirsten: there must be some GREAT discussion boards out there. but i don't understand the ending. people in the arctic are monitoring the electromagnetic field around the island?
11:23:00 PM kirsten: for desmond's ex-whatever?
11:23:10 PM kirsten: or what are they monitoring exactly?
11:23:11 PM cabinboy: ayep - she's got a lot of $$
11:23:19 PM kirsten: but how would she know about it?
11:23:25 PM cabinboy: they're looking for ANY spike in EM around the globe
11:23:26 PM kirsten: and why would she be monitoring it?
11:23:34 PM kirsten: but why would that help them?
11:23:36 PM cabinboy: she knows the route of the race that he was in
11:23:47 PM kirsten: or why would they know to look for a spike?
11:23:55 PM kirsten: why would that indicate desmond?
11:23:55 PM cabinboy: she knows he was lost at sea while some crazy storm hit the race
11:24:15 PM cabinboy: and must've found some weather/science data that recorded the EM nature of the storm
11:24:35 PM cabinboy: (which might've been when Inman's partner killed himself and Inman had to go bury him)
11:25:13 PM cabinboy: so, des's girl has paid these scientists to alert her if a similar spike occurs
11:25:59 PM cabinboy: (i figure the arctic nerds aren't JUST working for her, but are doing other nerdly studies, maybe they've got LOTS of girlfriends/fiances looking for weather phenomena waiting for them to call)
11:26:56 PM kirsten: ha ha. i just can't get my head around why she'd think that another EM storm/event would signal Desmond. Just because he disappeared after that happened, she thinks another event will signal his presence?
11:27:07 PM kirsten: so that one storm is what crashed the boat
11:27:15 PM cabinboy: yeah, that's what i figure
11:27:21 PM kirsten: and the next 'incident' crashed the plane
11:27:24 PM cabinboy: ayep
11:27:33 PM kirsten: oops, i mean the first 'incident' caused the storm which crashed the boat?
11:27:51 PM kirsten: and that first 'incident' is what made them have to push the button, right?
11:27:54 PM cabinboy: desmond's boat? or the blackrock?
11:27:58 PM kirsten: desmond's boat
11:28:04 PM kirsten: oh hell, i forgot about the black rock
11:28:12 PM cabinboy: yeah, the first incident required the creation of the button system
11:29:15 PM cabinboy: which might've sucked in the blackrock... i think there must've been more "system failures" than the ones we know about...
11:29:29 PM cabinboy: one sucked desmond's boat in
11:29:40 PM cabinboy: one sucked echo's brother's plane in
11:29:46 PM kirsten: oh my gosh, that's right
11:29:52 PM kirsten: and the hot air balloon
11:29:56 PM cabinboy: desmond "caused" the one that sucked the oceanic flight
11:30:00 PM cabinboy: yeah, the balloon!
11:30:20 PM cabinboy: and a transmission drew rousseau's ship to the island
11:30:40 PM cabinboy: i'm not sure if that was an incident... the "rules" are still a little shaky
11:30:57 PM cabinboy: cuz dharma can still somehow drop supplies to the island
11:30:59 PM kirsten: where do you think the 'others' came from?
11:31:11 PM kirsten: they can?
11:31:18 PM cabinboy: i think the core group must've been dharma initiative people
11:31:37 PM kirsten: that's what i was guessing
11:31:46 PM kirsten: henry and the guy with the fake beard?
11:31:49 PM cabinboy: yeah - during the lockdown, when locke's leg was crushed, the new dharma supplies were parachuted in
11:31:56 PM cabinboy: yeah, henry and "tom"
11:32:17 PM cabinboy: i think they add to their numbers from people who end up being stranded on the island
11:32:21 PM kirsten: no kidding. i didn't think about the timing of the lockdown with locke's injury and the parachute with the supplies
11:32:30 PM kirsten: so the supplies weren't there the whole time? they were definitely parachuted in?
11:32:37 PM kirsten: why on earth wouldn't they talk about that?
11:32:38 PM cabinboy: yeah, they were dropped
11:32:40 PM cabinboy: ha, see
11:32:55 PM cabinboy: that's part of the, like, thought dampening power of the island or something
11:33:11 PM cabinboy: don't discuss the obviously weird
11:33:49 PM kirsten: what on earth do you think the black cloud is then?
11:33:51 PM cabinboy: but yeah, i figure the lockdown is supposed to happen when dharma drops stuff - it keeps all the dharma drones locked in their hatches until the drop, or whatever dharma mothership has to do, is done
11:34:29 PM cabinboy: i usedta think it was directly related to the hatch and the button... that it's part of what the hatch and button are supposed to keep contained...
11:34:56 PM cabinboy: but now... i dunno...
11:35:25 PM cabinboy: another experiment - nannites, with some kind of ethical scanners?
11:35:29 PM kirsten: we really need to check out some of these blogs. now i'm even more fascinated than ever
11:35:42 PM kirsten: oh, to find the 'good' ones?
11:35:45 PM cabinboy: yeah
11:35:49 PM cabinboy: the "Good"
11:35:53 PM cabinboy: the "Good Guys"
11:36:04 PM cabinboy: the lists the others put together of people to abduct/save
11:36:20 PM cabinboy: i wonder, in the finale, among the others, if you'd see some of the tailies
11:36:32 PM cabinboy: the 20-something who were abducted the second night they were on the island
11:36:49 PM kirsten: so they just brainwash 'em?
11:36:51 PM cabinboy: converted to their cause/brainwashed, maybe? drugged? converted with brainwishing
11:37:19 PM cabinboy: i had an f'd up idea that i really like, but doesn't QUITE fit with everything... but might...
11:37:35 PM cabinboy: when sahid and jin and sun saw the four-toed foot of the giant statue
11:37:59 PM cabinboy: the island was originally supposed to be a high-tech/high-concept/futuristic amusement park/experience
11:39:03 PM cabinboy: maybe dharma hid some of their real research among their entertainment... and it went bad
11:39:31 PM cabinboy: btw, the orientation video for the pearl had a copyright year of 1980
11:40:08 PM kirsten: 25 years before the show?
11:40:28 PM kirsten: hmmm... not sure about the amusement park theory though :-)
11:40:40 PM kirsten: but i can't think of any possible explanation for the foot with four toes
11:40:42 PM kirsten: totally bizarre
11:41:02 PM cabinboy: heh
11:41:30 PM cabinboy: yeah, farfetched, but this alvar hanso character... sounds like a howard hughes or walt disney
11:41:57 PM cabinboy: moneyed, eccentric, fingers in lots of pies
11:42:06 PM kirsten: wait, who's that again?
11:42:09 PM kirsten: the guy from the video?
11:42:27 PM cabinboy: he's the guy the guy in the video refers to as the founder of dharma initiative
11:42:50 PM cabinboy: you see some footage, or a still, of some guy w a big beard in front of what look like a platoon of monks or martial artists
11:42:54 PM cabinboy: just for a few seconds
11:43:05 PM kirsten: oh hey, what was the knowing look between kate and charlie at the end?
11:43:26 PM cabinboy: yes! good catch! i mentioned that to rowan and he didn't notice it
11:43:37 PM cabinboy: (i made him watch that again afterwards =)
11:44:24 PM cabinboy: i have a feeling - maybe a medium-to-long-shot - that michael told jack EVERYTHING, and the cool kids figured out a contingency plan
11:44:44 PM cabinboy: michael would tell jack that he was promised the boat
11:44:56 PM cabinboy: michael could take walt and rendezvous w sahid and sun and jin
11:45:16 PM kirsten: ah, true. good point!
11:45:19 PM cabinboy: and hurley, or hurley could go back to camp completely on his own...
11:45:35 PM kirsten: but why would they want the 3 'bad' seeds?
11:45:40 PM kirsten: if they aren't going to hurt them?
11:45:48 PM kirsten: to get them out of the way?
11:45:54 PM kirsten: lock 'em up to absorb everyone else?
11:46:03 PM cabinboy: well, they definitely weaken the rest
11:46:12 PM kirsten: and what the hell are the numbers from, and why was that guy in the asylum mumbling the numbers?
11:46:14 PM cabinboy: they could try to "break" them and use them
11:46:20 PM kirsten: ah yes, that makes sense
11:46:47 PM cabinboy: or maybe they need them to fix something or work something or a doctor in particular for some reason...?
11:46:58 PM cabinboy: the numbers - i dunno... the frickin numbers...
11:48:02 PM kirsten: i'm looking for blogs. this is awful
11:48:05 PM cabinboy: hahaha
11:48:06 PM cabinboy: sorry
11:48:13 PM cabinboy: =)
11:48:34 PM kirsten: but i'm addicted! i just started watching the show over christmas
11:48:38 PM cabinboy: the numbers - some f'd up cosmic ratio - a "name of God"
11:48:47 PM kirsten: i rented season 1 and watched it in 3 days. then tom got season 2 so i could catch up
11:48:51 PM cabinboy: hahaha =)
11:48:54 PM kirsten: so why are they evil?
11:48:55 PM cabinboy: is tom into it?
11:49:10 PM kirsten: nope, not at all. just me.
11:49:16 PM kirsten: http://www.thehansofoundation.org/
11:49:19 PM cabinboy: wow - how can anyone resist?
11:49:38 PM cabinboy: oh boy - do i want to click that? =)
11:49:49 PM kirsten: i don't know. i'm just checking it out n ow
11:50:44 PM cabinboy: well, they may not necessarily be EVIL - they kind of redistribute things... fortune, information, luck, matter, energy....?
11:51:01 PM kirsten: they have bios. alvar hanso is there
11:51:26 PM cabinboy: hooboy - so this is from the makers of LOST?
11:51:44 PM kirsten: it's gotta be
11:52:20 PM kirsten: oh my god
11:52:25 PM kirsten: they have a life extension project???
11:52:31 PM kirsten: you think the people on the island age? :-)
11:52:40 PM kirsten: it's been 25 years for the project
11:52:47 PM cabinboy: wack
11:53:14 PM cabinboy: hrmm.... that would make it possible for the original founders to be running around the island
11:53:21 PM cabinboy: or maybe the quality of theisland for healing?
11:53:22 PM kirsten: right
11:53:28 PM kirsten: ah, good idea!
11:54:20 PM cabinboy: do you know the numbers off the top of your head?
11:54:25 PM kirsten: maybe that's why they say they're the good guys
11:54:30 PM kirsten: all this talk of trying to achieve world peace
11:54:32 PM kirsten: um...
11:54:58 PM kirsten: 4,8,15,16,23,42
11:56:03 PM cabinboy: i'm at the site now and wanted to try the numbers in the text fields
11:56:35 PM kirsten: wow, a whole site devoted to Lost numbers: http://thelostnumbers.blogspot.com/
11:59:41 PM kirsten: wow, midnight. actually gotta hit campus in the morning :-(
11:59:43 PM cabinboy: some of my rambling - http://wuzzon.blogspot.com/2006/05/lost-before-finale.html
11:59:55 PM kirsten: but we need to continue this talk once I've had a chance to look at more blogs! that's my new project for this week :-)
11:59:59 PM cabinboy: haha
12:00:16 AM cabinboy: thanks for letting me bug you =)
12:00:24 AM cabinboy: i hope i haven't cut into your productivity ; )
12:00:35 AM kirsten: oh my god, not at all
12:00:51 AM kirsten: i'm just gonna go lie in bed and watch tv 'til i fall asleep. productive? no, not so much. ha ha
12:00:56 AM cabinboy: hahaah =)
12:01:00 AM cabinboy: worksferme~
12:01:07 AM kirsten: so, to be continued!
12:01:13 AM cabinboy: absolutely =)

Keep on keepin on~